Missing Person: Trenny Lynn Gibson
This site is dedicated to Trenny, her family, to anyone who helped search for her, and to anyone who ever wondered about what may have happened to her. 45 years is a long time to be left not knowing.
Trenny Gibson vanished from the Great Smoky Mountains on October 8, 1976 while on a field trip with her high school. She hasn't been seen since.
Missing Since: October 8, 1976 from The Great Smokey Mountains National Park, Tennessee.
Classification: Lost/Injured Missing
Date of Birth: August 17, 1960
Age at time of disappearance: 16 years old
Height and Weight: 5' 3", 115 lbs
Distinguishing Characteristices: Caucasian Female, brown hair, green eyes.
Clothing/Jewelry Description: A blue blouse, a blue and white striped sweater, a borrowed brown plaid heavy jacket, blue jeans, blue Adidas shoes and a diamond and star sapphire ring.
“Alone”
From childhood’s hour I have not been
As others were—I have not seen
As others saw—I could not bring
My passions from a common spring—
From the same source I have not taken
My sorrow—I could not awaken
My heart to joy at the same tone—
And all I lov’d—I lov’d alone—
Then—in my childhood—in the dawn
Of a most stormy life—was drawn
From ev’ry depth of good and ill
The mystery which binds me still—
From the torrent, or the fountain—
From the red cliff of the mountain—
From the sun that ’round me roll’d
In its autumn tint of gold—
From the lightning in the sky
As it pass’d me flying by—
From the thunder, and the storm—
And the cloud that took the form
(When the rest of Heaven was blue)
Of a demon in my view—
-Edgar Allan Poe
"Though nothing can bring back the hour of splendor in the grass,
of glory in the flower.
We will grieve not, rather find
Strength in what remains behind."
Wordsworth
Todd
There have been multiple disappearances in this General area near the Tenn NC border. Dennis Martin Trenny Gibson, Thelma Pauline Melton and just recently Mitzie Sue Clement
Betty
Wasn't there a map found, that was drawn by fellow classmate.
Reagan
It reminds me of another disappearance with a secret. Amelia Earhart, ran out of gas and ditched in the Pacific Ocean. When evidence claims different.
Roberta
So, the point being .That she was possibly abducted. And there was a reason why. Not no sunny California.
Jaden
Was this a crash & sink,or a path of Hydra. A Eddie Wilson, escaping the Palace of Depression, or looking for the lost city of Z. Was she a Naiads looking for Living Island.
Connie
Important question: Does anyone know exact geographical coordinates of where Trenny was last seen by trail or is there a marker? Appreciate assistance in this matter!
Tina
Point being, she was or thought she was in good company.
Claudia
Looks can be deceiving but when she made a loop around the observation tower.Looks like she started in the parking lot, but wondering if someone with her didn't want to be seen.
Betsy
True, makes you wonder? If your thesis, if from the internet map. I assume that's the scent trail the search dog's followed.
Dana
From the point she left the trail to the road, from the couple that was at rest when Trenny was observed stepping off the trail was someone she knew. She never would've stepped off for a stranger.
Candace
Would be interesting if she's in the wood's behind where they lived on White Tower.
Conniev
Where who lived please? Thanks!
Connie
Has anyone ever thought of going to the trail on or around the 8th of October and having a memorial walk in honor of Trenny? I think it would really be appropriate for her classmates.
Meghan Donovan
My brother was on this school trip. Supposedly at the time several students were under the impression that she went to NC border to meet someone who was picking her up in a car.
Teresa Lynn Jones
Was the teacher ever a suspect? He knew the area. Would have easily been able to lure her away without a struggle. Would explain the jewelry showing up if he kept as souvenirs and later given away.
Connie
RS probably vowed to his Dad he would never divulge any details. His Father has passed away now but he’s going to keep his promise. That makes me wonder if his Dad was involved w/disposing of body.
Russ
Reasoning would be that he should've stalked after the over ravenous sexual Squatch than the bear. He might've got lucky.
Debbi
Rumour was he did get the coat back. That's where the comb that was found came from.
Terri
Witnesses claimed she was. It's also stated in the report.
Connie
I find my theories & feelings change on this story. Right now I am seeing Simpson as possibly The Fall Guy on this … wish he would clear his name if that’s the case!
Phil Bey
Agree with Mod that RS knows what happened, but in his defense, he could've helped guide her to CD Rd. for her get-away. TG leaving personal items to mates before starting a new life is possible.
Moderator
Simpson definitely knew more than he told about what happened that day, but had kept relatively mum on the subject. I agree, if he could clear his name, he ought to do such!
Phil Bey
Mellinger Death Ridge clue is pure nonsense to me and way too physically difficult to pull off. Even moving her body to Tremont sounds like a diversion. This case reminds me of movie River's Edge.
Moderator
Moving a body=burden, but if you have the assistance and could perhaps wait until the area is clear of searchers, then it’s possible. Or if you had an in with someone who owned property in the Park.
Phil Bey
If she did happen to run away, I'd check into co-workers from the buffet where she worked. I still think it's foul play.
Phil Bey
Very little private property in GSMNP. Scent dogs would've tracked to foul play spot, but body could've been rolled off a cliff. Easier to bury either in Noland (likely) or Forney Creek ravines.
Phil Bey
Simpson and/or Bowman are my top suspects, but the student who had undisclosed injuries also raises suspicion.
Phil Bey
If Robt. Simpson stayed behind at Andrews Bald as Trenny G. headed back to the bus, then he would've also passed those intermittent groups heading back. Witnesses?
Moderator
Depends when he left the Bald. Witnesses do not recall seeing him along the trail, he was among the last to reach the bus.
Philip S Bey
Kelvin Bowman could have been a convenient patsy. The break-in a year earlier, behavioral issues at school, the threats against the Gibson family. Kelvin Bowman would have been spotted at the park.
Phil Bey
Did those who claimed to see her on the trek back to the bus recall seeing her wearing RS's oversized jacket? RS catching up off-trail could've prompted "tracking a bear" excuse.
Gary 7
Was wondering,Trennys brother Robert Jr was home at that time. Wonder where he was? Interesting to know his where abouts.
Moderator
Can not verify Bob Gibson’s whereabouts on the day Trenny disappeared. Only know that he arrived home that Wednesday (October 6) on leave from the Navy after being away since July of that year.
James
It was theorized that she might've got confused and taken the wrong trail, like the Appalachian Trail, the dog's did track her to the AT but her scent went back up the road about a quarter of a mile.
Barbara
The search and rescue teams used Blood hounds and German Shepherds. They was even private volunteers that used dog's during the search. All dog team's lost her scent at the road.
Kelly
Are the details on this site actually factual? In the press for this period and 10 years after there are no confirmed reports that dogs could ever pick up a scent. No reports of items found either.
Moderator
The details on this site are taken from the actual NPS search report for Trenny. Several sets of dogs traced her scent and cigarette butts and a half can of beer were discovered. 100% real.
Steven Zancker
She just vanished . They looked everywhere. Yes I was on that field trip that day.
Connie
Wow and thanks for reply. I just learned of this case recently and I would have been a senior then. To me it’s just strange her brother asked Robert to watch out for her that day.
Candace
Part 2). But that second statement. The sexually hitchhiker, Most likely male. Who was he or she and was they known?
Gretchen
Good point, it was rumoured that she was caught in a car with someone. The interesting aspect was her father was the person that discovered this.
Gizmo
The location and like of supervision, helped. Was this a planned abduction or a opportunity? But one daunting question was Trenny in some type of trouble dating back during the summer?
KeithChristopherKosiewicz
if you are not writing a book, you should scan everything on here as it seems you are the #1 researcher on this case. also, w/out a map showing the POI, no one can understand this obvious ABDUCTION
Steven Zancker
I was there that day
Connie
I assume you were on the field trip? What do you think happened or do you want to comment?
Connie
Hey I just read where Robert E Simpson Jr died in Oct so perhaps since “Bobby’s” Daddy is gone maybe he might be more vulnerable to crack. I found the obit on Google. Just trying to help. God bless!
Angie
He stands alone.
Deddie
The slow reaction time of the teacher, if he'd called the Ranger's when it was first discovered she was missing.
Gunter
I'm sure Trenny wouldn't have step off for just anyone had to been known to her or an authority figure.
Todd
Following your lead, most likely the jewerly changed ownership at the public restrooms.
Paul
I'm still looking at the ring and necklace. Was the person that had possession after the fact, was it a trophy or hush money?
Knoxville Local
Someone named Terry, or a similar name.
John
Was reading a news paper clip that made a comment that their was two boy friends. Who was the second one?
Wallace
Not sure of the time or even if that matters. But if she made the parking lot with the trip back to Knoxville, if she hit the public restrooms.
Cam
That most likely was someone waiting to lure her off the trail.
Ed
that would explain her coming down the mountain, but not leaving the trail.
Doug
Read a post from another site that Trennys demeanor was of someone that had experienced rape.
TuesdaysChild_58
And someone pried her ring off of her cold finger.
David
Like the comb in his possession, that was most likely in his C P O jacket when get got it back.
Doug
I've wondered that one too, like a admission of guilt, but trying to pass it off.
Clark
The issue is her companion. Why would he leave her to go quote chasing or track a bear, when he promised her brother to watch and protect her?
Jonathan
True he could've lost another student.
Carl
The teacher, wish he'd come forward . Enlighten about his decision going towards Collins Gap, a no hike area for the class, and sending a lone student to search the Andrews Bold area alone.
Jack
The comb was found by her brother Robert Jr, in the car of one of the three.
Crow
The CPO jacket was most likely ditched. Might be where the comb was and later found in the car.
Joan
I always wondered about her dog, Mitize.
Maggie
I Remember, those red finger nails.
Bigrockdoc
Hi Lara - did any of the other students see Trent wearing Robert’s coat? I just wondered if he needed a reason to explain away his coat missing (because he had to dump it due to blood, etc).
Moderator
Yes, the students that I’ve interviewed remember Trenny wearing Robert’s coat when they last seen her walk ahead on the trail.
adrian hagerty
It’s very odd that her class mates had things belonging to her ? Has any one ever chased this up ?
Moderator
Yes, when the Gibson’s heard about it, they alerted the authorities. Both the jewelry and comb were explained away by claiming that Trenny had given them to a fellow student “to hold for her”.
Janice Whitman-Vierus
Wondering if the police at the time, bagged the cigarette butts and can of beer? If so, DNA could be ran. Tks
Moderator
I cannot get a direct answer as to to whether or not the beer can and cigarette butts were taken and held as evidence and then tested for DNA/prints.
Pokey
I read that according to people on the bus, they were followed to Clingmans Dome.
One step, Two step
And/or to simplify the process, just head to Cades Cove.
Tully
True, very tough going, but from Collins Gap parking lot you could take US 115 to go down the mountain to the exit for Parsons Branch Road
Sherry Jennette
The terrain is very rugged & especially off trail. I’ve backpacked all over the park for the last 50 years & she would not have made it to the proposed locations, ie; Parsons Branch Road, etc…
Sand Rat
Wasn't her brother Robert Jr home on leave from the Navy during this time?
Lite Foot
The West Prong of The Little Pigeon River coverages with Abrams Creek at the Old Sugarland cemetery.
Scout
Given the many classmates who heard the story, it wouldn't take much for an investigator to interview all of them and get info. It will boil down to the amount of circumstantial evidence to convict.
Lee
So, he has the towel and knows where it's at.
Nate
But could the Hitchhiker be a true person?
Holt
I'm still working on the classic masterpiece, " The Horny Hitchhiker".
Lita
After the argument possibly Trenny started walking down the trail to cool off. She was met and pulled off the trail .Trenny didn't swing vegetarian.
Giligan
I remember something like that, they were around the restrooms. Before heading towards the bus.
Bugs
I thought she was with two companions when she dìsappeared.
Buck Horn
Could the trap been set and sprung at the public restrooms, example, the jewelry .
Mattie
Also, could a spotter signaled the as mentioned the "capper", her location?.
Mule
Interesting the step off location, from reading there's a rock located, wondering if the person was a capper "decoy", that got her attention and lead her alongside the road back to the parking lot?
Pondoro
I've hiked that trail, thinking of the caller claimed a location of a prong crossing a trail, looking up the Thomas Divide, the Kephart prong trail crosses Kephart creek.
Abby_Grace62
There’s a parking area at Deep Creek.
Raccoon
My thoughts, was wondering if the Thomas Divide tunnel was used in her disappearance? Would make a great place to regroup or holding spot until the car came to take her out of the park.
Melvin
The teacher served as a Quartermaster in Southeast Asia, was a REMF.
Dino
I never thought Tree ran away.
Dorno
AMG 60, Speche Deutsch?
Girlinthewild_61
A young girl with her whole life ahead of her, vanished in a twinkle of an eye, while on a school field trip 44 years ago. She roams the Smokies ever since, on an eternal hike to where we don’t know.
Igoo
isn't there a over flow parking lot at Collins Gap that's associated with her disappearance. The cigarette butts was found.
AMG_60
You are all being ridiculous. The washroom story is nothing but a ruse. Trenny goes to the washroom and vanishes, Trenny hands off her jewelry in the washroom. Get your head out of your asses, please!
Bonk
True, I'm betting that's where the jewelry was handed off.
Cat Paw
The restrooms are more of a focal point, than where she was said to step off grid.
Astro
That's the idea of thing's getting real in the public restroom towards the end of the hike.
Rees
A coworker mentioned this site, I remember the incident. From looking at all posts, and the internet, I see a number game where you have three when there should been four.
Luke
Also a little further east, the Wildman of the Holston.
Glenn
Remembering a incident that happened sometime around 1974, of a Ranger being attacked around Paint Mountain . The wild Man of the Cataloochee.
Lewis
A argument, wasn't that incident in a clearing, where was the clearing located? Was towards the Bald, or more towards the parking lot?
Lisa
I'm so sorry that Trenny never made it home to her family. This is a tragic story and I feel so bad for Trenny as well as her family - especially her mother. God bless you all...
Michael
Boo coo dinky dau.
Earl
Hard to believe, been 44years, seems like yesterday that happened. Strange situation, just into thin air, they claim she ran away, but looks can be deceiving, like she had more than a little help.
Kimmie
Rumour has it, she had a tiff with the teacher on the trip. Shortly after it happened, Trenny disappeared. Maybe a coincidence, maybe not. The teacher has stayed silent all of these years.
Lewis
Usually when someone goes missing, they have help.
Charles
When she wandered off the trail, maybe she found the Person's Branch Road and traveled it .
Paul
From constraining the witnesses and reports, I wonder if this was a conspiracy to make a kidnapping look like a runaway situation, and throw the truth under the bus.
Sarge
Looks as if the field trip was organized by FNG.
Tim
Was watching the YouTube video that mentioned Trenny enjoyed listening to Jethro Tull, I heard see listened to Joan Jett and The Runaways.
Dave
And another Post Loss, was the jewelry, plus the reported questionable foot prints.
Sean
Like the coat, according to the statements she was wearing when went missing, but also has been mention the coat was returned, the source of the comb surfacing.
Moderator
Jennifer- Read my 2 comments below your first one. The source was a church member. That’s who informed me, and the Gibson family confirmed it as fact. It went nowhere with PD, no crime committed.
Jennifer
You've written elsewhere that Trenny's jewelry was found in the possession of a sophomore classmate. What is the source of that info? How was it followed up? Seems mighty suspicious.
Jennifer Sullivan
I understand that's what's been written. What is the source of this information? And what do the police say they did about it?
Moderator
The parishioner had her daughter phone the girl with the jewelry and try to get her to tell how she had gotten it,etc. She was evasive but agreed that the right thing to do was return it. She did not.
Moderator
A parishioner of the same church of the Gibson’s was made aware of the jewelry and confronted the person that had it.The Gibson family were informed and they in turn alerted the authorities.
Tony
Tremont would be a great place, and wonder if it's marked.
Scott
Plus a white or blue 1963 Chevrolet was seen.
Susan60
With round taillights, one burned out.
SherryBaby61
There was a van in the parking lot with 2 occupants that afternoon.
Denny
The wolf told the sheep not to trust the sheepdog.
KimE_61
Most of the students on that field trip didn’t have a dog in the race.
Bobby
At the time they was a rumor that the FBI was watching Mr. Gibson.
Moderator
Guess that the FBI should have set their sights on someone much younger, a Bob with a different last name for example.
Davis
wonder if this was a act for street Credibility ?
Moderator
And you don’t mess around with Jim.
Dennis
Getting lost on the trail, a basic doing a 180 turn around, and back to the parking lot.
Mike
Was Trenny told someone of interest, like her "brother" was waiting for her back down the trail, for her to solo back down the trail to the parking lot?
Moderator
I think it’s very likely that’s the story she was given. To get her to go off eagerly enough and alone. Her brother or a boy she was interested in would have done the trick.
Jerry
Wonder if this was fueled by drugs?
Lewis
Trenny running away, is like Chris McCandless pilgrimage to the magic bus.
Ryan
Do we know what was the reason behind the break-in at the Gibson’s the year before Trenny vanished?
Moderator
Seemed to be sexually motivated. I’d venture to guess that Bowman had a car/driver along hiding back someplace. What did he plan to do, just assault Trenny out in the open on her front lawn?
Paul
Interesting the dog's tracked her toward's Collins Gap.
Greg
How far is the rock, from the main road into Clingmans Dome.
Dave
The weather conditions that day especially the fog helped hide them.
Thomas
The rock, might've been where everything went down.
Moderator
Somebody was watching for her. Who and why remains to be seen. But most of us involved know.
Tif
I don't think it's a plausible idea that Trenny pawned her jewelry. Given the fact her comb was found with Simpson, it seems like her possessions were taken from her after the fact.
Robert
From the point she stepped off trail, there's a outcropping of rock's, it's been used as a reference point of Trenny going off grid.
Scott
from reviewing the NPS and other reports, they is two different statements. One saying Trenny was seen going off trail another states her being last seen going to the restroom.
Moderator
I’ve read both versions too, but I stuck with the one where she went off trail because there were more witnesses and that was the very first version.
Toby
But Why ? She had money, that was left behind at her house, why pawn her ring and necklace when she had cash.
Eric
Might've if she was planning on using the money to runaway.
Dave
could Trenny have sold the ring and necklace.
Jim
With the location of RT 441 and Asheville NC, could their be a link with Bald Mountain.
Stellakhat
Where is Simpson today?
Sam
Could've been a secret plot somewhere in those woods.
Ed
Most likely build a fort.Fort Muscogee Knoxville.
Dan
As i remember there was woods behind the house.
Doug
My question, what could a sixteen year old girl do that would cause such repercussion as this?
Anonymous
Who knows what secrets the woods behind 1427 hold?
John
More of a Gary Hilton, the National Forest serial killer. Ole Brad couldn't fiddle around, and got out of the country.
Anonymous
Far too many signs point to Trenny knowing who harmed her. She wouldn’t get off the trail for someone she didn’t know. There were no signs of a fight or struggle. No scream or sound.
Donnie
Could Bradford Bishop still been in the park, that incident happened just a several months before her disappearance.
Anonymous
He took the hat from my mouth. ''Tell me you love me'', he said. Gently I did. The end came anyway
Wrong way Mike
Was a logging camp at the turn of the century, later turn into a resort of the Wonderland Hotel.Would have logging roads and flatbed of railroad line, plus abandon buildings, to Mount Collins.
Doogie_59
Surprising that no one has mentioned the old trail from Collins Gap to Elkmont. Was this ever searched, does anyone know?
Anonymous
The boast of heraldry, the pomp of pow'r,
And all that beauty, all that wealth e'er gave,
Awaits alike th' inevitable hour.
The paths of glory lead but to the grave.
David
the rock, a few paces from where she step off trail has importance.
Ryan
The jewelry was rumored handed off in the restroom.
Bill
Rumored that one of two girl's had the jewelry.
Robin
The one accused wasn’t the one with the jewelry.
Bill
That was one of the rumors, and how he got possession of the comb.
Tom
Too bad we don't have it confirmed it was "her" jewelry on another student after the disappearance. Or something like maybe RS having his jacket back. That'd make it very clear what happened.
Moderator
Why would the student admit having it and agree to return it to the family if it wasn’t Trenny’s to start with? And if Trenny just gave it to her, what’s the big secret?
Becky West
When Trenny bent down, could Simpson have been to the right and fake warned her that Calvin was ahead on the regular trail and she ran to him for safety, was then taken to Calvin? motive drugs/seX
Vicky Vicars
Would love to know your theory.
Vicky Vicars
I have followed this case. Trenny would be about my age. I am from East TN but did not know her, as I live in Cleveland. I am torn between two theories- Simpson pushes her over a cliff or a third part
Anonymous
Ezekiel 7:7 KJV The morning is come unto thee, O thou that dwellest in the land: the time is come, the day of trouble is near, and not the sounding again of the mountains.
Jim
Was wondering if the caller to Knoxville PD got trails and waterways confused, or one of each?
Kandis
Or there was no body, and no mystery, it was all smoke and mirrors to cover up the real truth.
Grady D Lowe
MY SISTER DEBBIE SUE DISSAPEREAD IN 1972 I KNOW YOUR PAIN MY PRAYERS
Sharon Mc Cormack
Grady, I am so sorry about what happy to you sister Debbie Sue. Would it help you and your family to get in contact with other families whose loved ones have disappeared. I
Ryan
Being caving for several years, from my understanding there's caves not far from Clingmans Dome, could she have fell into one, on the North Carolina side.
Maddie
At least Noah received a Dove, he got a ole Turkey Buzzard, a whole kettle.
Tony
From rumours, one individual was observed with scratches on his lower torso.
Desiree
AbbyRoad69 have you given authorities this persons name?
AbbyRoad69
Likely if it’s who I believe you are referring to, he wore them like a badge of honour.
Fred
Wonder if the participants in the hike was checked for any bruises or scratches, if they was a articulation between Trenny and another person?
Thomas
The bus was equipped with a citizen's band radio, the teacher connected the park after he and another student searched.
Erika
Why were the parents Not notified of her disappearance until FIVE hours after she went missing????? I do Not know One teacher who would wait FIVE hours to notify a PARENT of a CHILDS disappearance????
Jordan
Because it was 1976. Telephone communication wasn’t what it is now, nor as widely available. Also, everyone wasn’t immediately offended at everything that happens.
Erika
http://necrosearch.org/
Jack
How would you have suggested he get in touch with the parents? Ok there is a walk-in talkie of some sort in the bus but that’s not going to reach very far. Most likely it was a Park Service radio give
Thomas
Very true, I've noticed and wondered to.
Sunshine
From what read I believe someone on that field trip killed her they told to many different storys
Ed
The car incident, was the guy's name Darrel, she was caught with?
Zumbo
Did you know " Lynn", Trenny?
AMTL
Im sorry 4 this i just wright what i feel/see inside. Please excuse me.
AMTL
Her last thought i can. Feel is of fleeting fear she was just about to run and then......nothing. Body moved back to the woods after they stoped looking.
AMTL
A man in green pants and bright orange coat would gain her trust as she started to panic as night creeps closer and she no loger herd anyone.
AMTL
While reading, my mind wonderd in directions as did Lynns that day she was abducted. She came to 3 points in a heavily used trail still within shouting rage of her friends. As she made the fatal turn
Jason
Lured? Makes a good point. From her actions, in those last moment's, does make you feel someone was in woods.
Steve
Maybe she went to meet someone, or this was the point she was lured off the trail.
Greg
There was talk of a short cut she took from the the Forney Creek Trail to the parking lot,but would look like she'd stay with the group, instead of venturing off.
LisaLisa87!
A map would’ve been pointless, really. Trenny had never been to the Park before, she didn’t know the layout, etc. Likely the map was planted by someone.
Gene
Not sure a map would've helped, she'd never been to the park before, was her first time there.
Thomas
Never heard that one before, but did hear that a map was found in her locker.
LittleDebby*54_
Class of 82 here. Someone is on the class of 78 page talking smack that Trenny’s Dad had her rubbed out, according to Tina Gibson. Tina has passed, obvious this flake didn’t know. What a thing to say!
Bruin
From rumours at school he was athlete.
ChickenLittle58
They called him Suitcase Simpson, big dude he was. He was crazy about Trenny, and a good friend of her brother, Bob. He knows things the others do not about that day.
Marsha
Robert Simpson. He gave Trenny his jacket - but he got it back somehow. He also had her comb from her back pocket found in his car.
Tom_57
Why did they call him that, was he packing something around with him, or what?
Anonymous
“For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.”
Jeff
I bet that was when her father caught her in a car with a boy, that happened just about a few weeks before the field trip.
Marsha
I never heard this - can you elaborate? I know that there was an intruder in her house - he was a student at her school, who faced charges and later was arrested for sexual assault or rape of a girl.
Appleseed/Applethorn
I just read an article that stated that Trenny had misgivings about going on the trip. Maybe she had a bad feeling or maybe she picked up on something somebody said, that something might happen.
Anonymous
Romans 2:5 - But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God;
Anonymous
“Blow ye the trumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the day of the LORD cometh, for it is nigh at hand;”
Joel 2:1
Anonymous
. "To me belongeth vengeance, and recompence; their foot shall slide in due time: for the day of their calamity is at hand, and the things that shall come upon them make haste."
Anonymous
Be strong and courageous. Do not fear or be in dread of them, for it is the Lord your God who goes with you. He will not leave you or forsake you.”
Rick
I remember that our Scout Troop volunteered to help in the search, this was just a few week's after her disappearance, not no more than three week's after, but the weather changed for the worst.
Anonymous
Whoever sows injustice reaps calamity, and the rod they wield in fury will be broken.
Daniel
I've read the posts, and thinking back those many year's ago, I believe I've met the Robert Simpson, his Dad was Assistant or District Attorney for Knoxville, drove a large car, I believe a Chevrolet.
Rhonda
Yes, that’s him.
Daniel
I remember when this happened
Jay
" If you tell a big lie enough, and frequently it will be believed " Adolf Hilter
Moderator
As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice.
Adolf Hitler
Shannon
Psalms 91
Darla
Hitler may have thought he was a Christian, but by killing God’s CHOSEN people, or killing ANYONE, he was anything but. JESUS commands us to love. Killing is a sin.
Moderator
Only with thine eyes shalt thou behold and see the reward of the wicked. 91.8
Phil
It's weird, that if she did chose to runaway, way use the park, and loosing so much time hiking, when she could've met someone in the school parking lot.
Moderator
Trenny had a perfectly good home to runaway from, or she had a job at Morrison’s in the Mall. All she had to do was lie about going to work one day, and leave.
Earl
No, it's just hard to fathom, her participating in the hike, and at the end of the hike, skinning out.
Moderator
But to some for 43 years, it makes sense. To go to an unknown place, 90 minutes from home, bring nothing with you but yourself, hike for 2-3 hours, then disappear.
Earl
Since she was planning to runaway, and she was concerned her plan might be compromised, she was looking for a LZ in the woods for a chopper dust off.
Moderator
Are you trying to say Trenny had an agenda to rendezvous with someone in the woods, so that she could disappear?
Chris
Maybe when she discovered that she made or took the wrong path/trail, she panicked. Our she was purposely veered off or lured away from the trail.
Jason
She was tracked to several locations, at the road, to the tower and heading towards Collins Gap.
Marsha
Trenny was also wearing a borrowed jacket, which may have altered/confused the scent trail. Some say he got the jacket back, but when she was last seen she was wearing it.
Bill
According to statements, they stopped and shared a quick meal of sandwiches, and separated, Trenny heading back down they trail, according to some, at a fast pace.
Marsha
Right. At one point a boy was hyperventilating and since he was asthmatic they stopped. Trenny did not. I wonder if she had to use the restroom or maybe got her period, went to the woods and was lost.
Jim
From the statements, her friend which she borrowed the coat from, was the last person she was with. Missing 411, stated he was in close proximity of her even after they separated.
Marsha
Yes and it is disturbing that he claimed to leave her to "track a bear" and yet he supposedly got his jacket back, although a witness claims she was wearing it when last seen at the edge of the trail
Stan
That's where the teacher claimed to have found track's was at that shelter, but never mentioned in there report.
Mike
Sometimes a person needs to looks for redemption, especially if you’ve made a critical mistake in judgement.
Wally
Track's were found at the shelter at Double Spring's.
Matt
She was tracked heading towards Collins Gap.
John
And should've been looking up, instead of down.
Marsha
FallGuy - why do you say that "she was dead 30 minutes after she stepped off of that trail"?? That's a really strange thing to say and it echoes what a witness said. You think she was murdered? Info?
FallGuy
Are you one of those fools that thinks Trenny is up in a tree?
Seriously, she was dead 30 minutes after she stepped off of that trail. Look more towards Mellinger as a resting place.
Alex
I'm surprised she hasn't been found.
Debbie
I’m pretty sure she’s in North Carolina.
Stan
Was wondering if there's a memorial to Trenny at Bearden
Jim
Seems like there has been a lot of good news comeing from DNA lately.
DeeAnn
Great that Alan and I were able to go pay our respects to Trenny and make sure she is not forgotten. 43 years have passed. We will always remember you.
Alan
If you're still interested, meet me around 3:00 to 3:30 tomorrow at Food City Western Avenue.
DeeAnn
Yes, I’m still interested, Trenny needs to be remembered.
Jim
What you have said in the dark will be heard in the daylight, and what you have whispered in the ear in the inner rooms will be proclaimed from the roofs.
Donnie
Uncovering deep things out of the dark, and making the deep shade bright. Job 12:22
Jim
Nothing is covered up that will not be uncovered, and nothing secret that will not become known. Luke 12.2-12
Alan
On Western, yes what time and day.
DeeAnn
Will have to meet and pay our respects on Monday the 7th instead. Same place?
DeeAnn
Tuesday the 8th. May have to work the early shift.
Alan
Using a variable, I've got a 50/50 chance your are or not.
DeeAnn
Do you know the FoodCity?
Alan
How close to Western Avenue are you?
DeeAnn
I’m assuming that you think I’m local?
Robert
No one's mentioned the public restroom yet?
Alan
Was also thinking of a tao to the Smokies.
DeeAnn
I’d like to come along and lay a flower in her memory. Some kind of memorial should be erected.
Ryan
From the Book of Peter, paraphrase Be a alert mind, your
enemies prowls like a roaring lion waiting to devour
Anonymous
Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:
DeeAnn
And he answered and said unto them, I tell you that, if these should hold their peace, the stones would immediately cry out.
Ryan
Quoting a passage from the Book of Luke, " The rock's cry out".
Alan
I seen the Find A Grave memorial, MIA ,declared dead or buried at sea. On a eternal field trip.
Alan
Very sad, and not knowing what really happened, and the grief of her family.
DeeAnn
It was very hard for her family to cope, all of these years and no answers. I knew Trenny, but I don’t think anyone really knew her well. Still, I would like to see her remembered positively.
Alan
The anniversary of her disappearance will soon be here.Was thinking of laying a flower at the Bearden memorial garden in her memory.
DeeAnn
That’s a nice gesture!🌸
Randy
But why need witnesses, when you're hunting a bear, out of season in a federal park, with only his index finger.
Cosmo63
I’m sure he used his entire right or left hand.
Rick
Everyone had a witness that they where together, except one.
Paul
The rumours started that weekend, unchecked and fueled, wasn't until later that they was a agenda,runaway.
Eddie
Her disappearance, with all the rumours is like growing mushrooms, keep in the dark, and fed fertilizer.
Fred
Since the topics on tree's, think they'd be any old hollowed tree's in the area.
Moderator
Yes, there are several. Makes a great hiding place, especially if located out of the search area. Easy to toss a shoe into or an article of clothing.
George
The Dome Comb and the fabled comb of Trenny''s, interesting reference.
Moderator
Yes, that comb should have been a definitive clue that Trenny was gone and not returning. That something was very wrong. I think of her whenever I see the Dome Comb tree.
Ward
Lake Fontana has been mentioned, don't forget Lake Santeetlah at Robbinville.
James
At one time, they was a resort on the North Carolina side of the park, I believe called the Thunderbird.
Joe
Take the Alcoa High Way to Chilhowee go though the Nantahala National Park to Cherokee, hook the 441, to Clingmans Dome.
Lamont
But didn't it take them 2 to 2.5 hour's to get there? Might've took the long great circle path, I 40 E, exit on the 441.
Benny
From my understanding, they took the Chapman Hwy into Sevierville, and Rt 441 into the mountains. Would've been the most direct way.
Don
Just out of curiosity, which route did the class take leaving Knoxville for the Smokies?
Lewis
And then, they were three.
Kimba
Georgia State won over the Vols last night, their panther scratched that hound’s ass full of holes. Maybe it’s symbolic and the beginning of the end.
Evan
Batman has the Bat Cave, maybe the proverbial horny hitchhiker has a base camp.
Dirk
The camp was discovered off the Tucker trail, ideal location as a staging point, it being located between the parking lot and the lake, no mention of hot coals left, just that it was abandoned recentl
Billy
A lot of landslides happening in the Paint Mountain area.
Moderator
That could go either way, bad news if there’s something to hide, good news if you are looking to find something.
Wondering
I knew Robert in the 80s and spent lots of time alone with him. He was never threatening to me. I did read where Kelvin was arrested the following year for rape.
Moderator
The search area went as far as Lake Fontana, will have to confirm whether or not the banks, the water and island were searched. The Park does allow camping on some of the island.
Michael
They was a recently vacated camp found during the initial search, stated as recently occupied, it was between Clingmans Dome and the lake, wondering if the lake and water and islands was searched.
Luke
Looking up into the bottom foundation at the beauty, Wishing you a Happy Birthday Trenny in Heaven.
Round About
The Tuckaleechee Caverns, at Townsend, and the White oak Sink, where the Rainbow Falls cave is.
Absconder
Out at Rainbow Falls, the water disappears into a cavern below. Likely filled with bats, and you know what they say about bat dung acting as a preservative.
Gibby
The Lord watch between me and thee, for when we are absent from one another, until we meet again.
Dean
Greater love has no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.
Absconder
You are My friends if you do what I command you. No longer do I call you servants, for a servant does not understand what his master is doing.
Matt
I know of two cave's, Whitewhole and Bull both are Bat sanctuaries, gated and locked. Was wondering if any more of silver mining was done around Clingmans Dome.
Moderator
Caves and mine shafts are examples of places to put a body to avoid detection,digging into the ground, etc. And if they are only known to the killer, and virtually inaccessible,a body can stay hidden.
Roger
The enigma of after eating lunch, and still a hour and a half left to hike, she chose to return to the parking lot.
Moderator
Yes, for all intents and purposes, she seemed to be in a bit of a hurry to return to the bus in the parking lot. Whether she was cold, bored, or wanted to be alone, we don’t know.
Terry
Was reading that the teacher formed a two man search, he and another student before the park got involved, said the teacher found track's similar to the same as Trenny was wearing.
Marsha
Yes, and it's interesting to know - at first I thought this search took place the next day. After the rainfall. He took another student to search, and split-up from him, just after he lost a student.
Josh
And another interesting fact, was the camp they found between the tower and they lake, was no permit issued.
Giani
I visited the area last summer. Two things of note.
1) Trenny left money and was unprepared to runaway.
2) Robert claimed he fell behind while tracking a bear.
Shelby
I thought Robert got his coat back and the comb was inside the pocket, explaining how he ended up with it. Which means he had to have seen Trenny again before she vanished.
Moderator
Conflicting reports also abound over whether or not he recovered the jacket of his that Trenny had on that day. It may have been the scent the dogs picked up, his jacket/Trenny’s scent.
Sammie59
Just a kid making a dumb excuse to get rid of her.
Phil
The bear tracking, could be a reference to a code or cryptic message, but that depends upon the group using the reference, could mean a call to nature or a individual person.
Dee
What county is Clingman's Dome located, is it Scott?.
Dave
The climate in East Tennessee is to warm, bear's don't hibernate they're up and about. The bear tracking, could've been ploy to get separated from him, and her alone on the trail.
Moderator
You mean is “tracking a bear” a code for doing something totally different? Like “cracking a beer” or going to the bathroom? Like, “Does a bear go in the woods?” Maybe someone has some insight?
Marsha
Interesting - it's possible he was drinking the beer (found half-full and smoking) and that he motioned Trenny into the woods to join him. Maybe she ran from him and became lost or he hurt her.
Kit Carson
That time of year, and with the conditions that day, and bear would be laying down under the bush, wonder if that's a code for something else.
Bam66
Maybe she ran uphill to the trail since there was a re routing of the trail. Someone may have been chasing her and was in danger. Would have explained her scent not being on trail but around i
Adam
No, It isn't a dream, but for a par sec of time, the clock moved backwards.
DES
Tell me it was just a dream. 10/08/76 3:15.
William
Might've been, from the track she left, she was either trying to make to the bus,or a known location, the tower, but was stopped.
Rocky
Was wondering if the tunnel under Clingmans Dome road was used, that's the Appalachian trail/Thomas Divide trail that run's under the road.
Tony
The bearings that was given, had to get out my old navigation tools, and buy a map, your azimuth, is on a trail, close in to the tower.
Eddie
Put it this way. While the Park was searched, Trenny wasn’t there. She was returned later by Jeep and buried someplace far out in the woods. They’re confident she’ll never be located.
Marsha
Care to add details, please? Nothing can be done without a body and this is basically anonymous w so many speculating, so no one can say you snitched. Should have a little peace, at least of knowing.
Jim
Was wondering, that a possibility of Trenny being brought back to Knoxville, in the first stage of her disappearance, while the search was focused in the mountains.
Wondering
How do you know this? Have yo reported it?
Jason
The Bearden Junior Hight picture brought back a lot of memories, when I invited her to a sox hop at Vine Middle School, and danced the Loco Motion.
Sharon Mc Cormack
Jason, what do you and your class mates think happened to Trinny? Is there a possibility that she may have ran away and started a new life else where?
Boots
I thought that too
Gary
Wondering if Jack was a Jill the Ripper?
Eddie
35.4947N, 83.6889W is where the searchers should have concentrated their efforts.
Marsha
Thank you, Eddie - I hope someone listens. I can't get there, right now.
Ed
He mother, has accused and blamed two of her classmate's for her disappearance, was wondering if they was any more.
Gary
Congratulation to my fellow classmates at Elizabethton High School.
Ira
Wondering if any of the abandoned dwellings was searched, some of the old structures still stand, or only the foundation and chimneys still remains.
Rachel
And waiting for anyone who was youmg and remotely on their own. If they knew the area it been easy to get in and out of there. Though I still say someone she was in school with knows something.
Rachel
If other people were hiking through there especially if bad people knew there would be a school field trip, and something like that probably easy to find out that point in time could have been lurking
Charles
Just a note, remember, a capital offence on Tribal land, comes under Federal government jurisdiction.
Burt
Good idea and a possible location. Try looking in Paint Mountain and Cherokee N.C. area's.
Gary
I've acquired some additional map's, Nantahala, and Cherokee National Forest, and trails along the French Broad River, focusing looking outside the park.
Shelby
How would you get ahold of a class list of attendees for the field trip if one survived? I’m doing a project for a sociology class. I’d like to know if 38 or 40 students were on the trip.
Chris
What would Simpson have been doing alone, from 1:30pm until 3pm? After Trenny left and started back down to the bus? Shucking his corn or what?
Moderator
Chris
Also, Simpson DID get his jacket back, either in the ensuing scuffle or it was returned to him shortly after, with Trenny’s comb in the pocket. He retrieved it and kept it as a trophy.
Chris
Trenny wasn’t alive for more than half an hour after she left that trail. She was whisked out of the Park, before the field trip ended and murdered. The witnesses were incorrect about the time of day.
Sammy
You people should be looking at Paint Mountain. And I mean looking up at the trees, not looking at what’s down on the ground. You’re years late, but it may still be there. If you knew where to look.
Eddie
Trenny sleeps in the Smokies! I know someone who was a member of the original search party and worked at Tremont. He knows things that others don’t.
Eddie
Something of Trenny’s WAS found. So the guilty ones that bank on her being lost forever are not as safe as they think they are.
Angie
Care to share so more info?
Moderator
He was a young teacher at the time, likely out of college only a short time. The students at Bearden may have felt very comfortable with him, with him being close to their age.
Professor Ted
The teacher, would've graduated in the late sixties,just when American Universities was in civil unrest, and cultural revolution, they were called Yippies, a educated hippie.
Terry
A possibility, but she would've had to clear it with the teacher first, get permission before she could, in which probably not, it a school trip.
Gary
One idea I've had, was If someone told Trenny, about driving back to Knoxville, instead of riding the bus back home.
Matthew Foster
Have they looked into serial killer Samuel Little? He's confessed to murdering over 90 woman and one was in 1975 in Knoxville.
Jake
Not long after Trenny disappeared, I heard someone saw her at Holston River Park, they was almost sure it was her, because of her red finger nail polish.
Moderator
Because that was the best excuse for disappearing ,that could be fabricated at the time. Hey, she jumped the fence and left! It worked well because then Bearden also had clean hands.
Scott
Why a National Forest? Basically in the middle of nowhere, unless this was pre planned without any problems.The school would've been a more logical place, since that's where her mom drop her off.
Moderator
It was an abduction, pure and simple. Probably going to get opinions that beg to differ, but that’s my stance and always has been.
Chris
True, unless as mentioned this was a distraction, to make it look like a abduction.
Moderator
Trenny was more than smart enough to prepare if she wanted to bug out. She would not have decided impulsively to take off with nothing.
Gene
Just have one random question. Was watching the YouTube video, with the classmate, she stated that Trenny, jumped the fence and went to California, has they been any communication over the years?
Ammy
If Trenny had planned to leave she'd have taken her savings with her, not left them behind? Unless it was a sudden spontaneous action, but is that likely, & to be able to evade detection?
Moderator
Not to her family. Perhaps to friends from school or her job? Maybe someone will enlighten us.
Moderator
Eyewitness accounts are nearly always wrong when identifying someone. Especially in a moving vehicle.
Hubert
Plus another interesting aspect was the sightings, but reading the post's, account to wishful thinking, false identification.
Joel
As far as I know, Trenny was the only missing person that day, if the boyfriend was local, but was not counted, or considered missing, is interesting, or to help with the story line.
Ben
The rumor at school was they met at her work place.
Moderator
I know I keep saying this, but who was this mystery person that was supposed to have picked up Trenny that day from the Park? Where did she meet him? School or Morrison’s? Does he have a name?
Lonnie
Like a previous post, Communication, unless she was packin a HT, "walkie talkie", all good plan's fail, her pick up point could've changed.
Sam
The dog's tracked her to the base of the Tower, and lost her trail, he could've been waiting there, but not sure if that's a utility road/trail or not, raining, would've needed a all terrain vehicle.
David
One issue that was never mentioned, was while she was hiking, and the in question boyfriend was waiting in the parking, you would think saying goodbye, but that wasn't discussed or mentioned.
Moderator
That was later found to have been an hoax. It was discussed on the “Brain Scratch Searchlight” episode about Trenny.
Gary
Tim, I saw the post you mentioned, dated around 2012, left articles of Trennys, in a sack at a ranger station.
Moderator
Love sickness may have been involved, and an over abundance of hormones, but Sasquatch is innocent of wrongdoing in this one.
Tim
With all the misconception and rumor associated with her disappearance, and now since a love sick over testosteroned Sasquatch now has been entered as a prime suspect, the field is wide open.
Sean
Plus, how would they've communicate with each other to set up the point, and time of pick up, since she was up on the trail hiking, and him in the parking lot.
Eddie
If this was a staged plot, with a twist to throw everyone off her plan to runaway she done a excellent job, but why participate, time would be against her, not a classic example of running away.
Moderator
It was very odd, about who the mystery candidate was, that was supposed to have collected Trenny from the Park that day, so that they could begin their adventure together. Anybody have any thoughts?
Shelby
She could have just as easily dropped back and met her ride in the parking lot at the beginning of the hike, instead of hiking for most of the trip, if she’d planned to take off that day.
Moderator
Yes, the questions that would never die.
Gary
Still debating on her running away, she was unprepared, brought only the clothes she wore from home, and participated in the hike, instead of leaving once she arrived at the park.
Gary
And the weather, and at the border of two state line's, several different juridical area's Federal, State, County, Cities line's.
Shelby
Yes, lack of supervision and the thought that this could never happen in high school all contributed.
Gary
True, like all the other rumours involved with this disappearance, but with the parking lot available, and not expecting a abduction, without much supervision.
Shelby
Yes, and nobody seemed to take it seriously, that perhaps the bus HAD been tailed that day. Brushed off like it was a fabrication.
Gary
I've found a post and on a site, that several passengers on the bus to Clingmans Dome, mention that the bus was followed or tailed that day, the post said it was a Dodge.
Vicky
I thought you said she ran away, and did you push her.
Christopher Pennington
Are you crazy? Conspiracy NUTS: she took a piss, got disoriented, lost, died later of hypothermia. No one knew in advance where they were headed.
Francis Castiglione
What's it to you fella? I doubt you know a whole lot anyways. Your prob just a troll as well. I doubt you're even from the area. Quit talking about shit you know nothing about.
Moderator
Yes, they had a role to play, knew it and pulled it off. The inclement weather and lack of supervision were all factors that worked in the perpetrators favor. Something smiled upon them that day.
Lewis
As with any organization, you have personal in key positions.
Shelby
Our teacher mentioned that some of the students named Bowman as the one who followed the bus to the Park. How could Bearden prove he was at school the entire day?
Gary
Shame, I better go Mom's calling for supper, and I better beat my sister or I'll be eatting chicken necks, I'll be back soon.
Moderator
According to some students on the trip, yes, they claimed that the bus was being followed to the Park. Bearden brushed it off, and I don’t believe the lead was pursued any farther.
Gary
One thing I read a post, saying the bus was followed that day which might explain her disappearance, plus the Old Sugarland Trail crosses Clingmans Dome Road, before the parking lot.
Moderator
Yes, and fog rolled in. It shut the search down later that night and further hampered it the next day. The fall foliage also made it very hard to spot anything.
Gary
True, read a post that later in the evening, the drizzle turn into snow, as the temperature dropped.
Moderator
That’s where the few twigs and ferns were found to be broken at the side of the trail. The weather was getting miserable. It would be easy to mistake the spot. School likely was dismissed early.
Gary
True, but the location they mentioned, very thick under growth, and very steep drop offs, wondering in if the location is further up the trail.
Moderator
Yes, I think being with Robert at Andrews Bald was likely a stall for time. Likely for someone to get into the proper position off trail. They’d have to travel through the woods, which takes time.
Gary
From my research, looks as though Trenny, was stalled at Andrew's Bald, and then made her back down Forney Creek Trail, in which they were waiting.
Moderator
Gary and Shelby, has there been any updates on what you’ve learned studying Trenny’s case?
Randy
Yes, for what ever reasons which is known to a select few, she could have and lived a productive life.
Mody
Had she done so, likely she’d still be here.
Fred
Trenny should've gestured back showing them they where number one, and high tailed it to the parking lot.
Mody
Trenny likely saw movement or a gesture, and a friendly face. She may have heard a noise, too. Very foggy that afternoon.
Mike
The last moment's of Trenny is complex wading through the rumours and hear say, she saw something possibly someone got her attention and motioned to her, probably someone she knew.
Gary
Good point, Shelby. From looking at this, she was likely lured off trail by possibly 1 or 2 people. I think another was involved, maybe to stay with the vehicle to remove her from the Park.
Shelby
If Robert had done something to alert her of what was to come, or somehow managed to scare her, how would he get her to go off trail? She seemed like a smart girl, not easily mislead.
Gary
True, but she was traveling at an accelerated pace, and laying low at time's, like she was trying to keep a low profile, while making a attempt to get back to the bus.
Shelby
Yes, that could be it, exactly. She decided to then leave the situation, and go back to the safety of the bus. Maybe she just wanted to be alone, so that’s why she went ahead of the others.
Gary
From my perspective, and I've looked at every possible angle, apparently sometime during to hike, she's either been threatened or approached in a manner that was unacceptable to her.
Shelby
What I don’t understand is, if that’s what happened, how would they know that she would be alone?
Harv
Very true, does make for good reasoning to believe she was lured off the trail, and by looking into this by someone she knew and trusted.
Shelby
Trenny had to have been tricked to get her to step off that trail where she did. It’s so steep, all the tangled underbrush and tree after tree after tree. No right minded person would leave.
Earl
Just to give you direction Gary, a East Tennessee author/historian VN"Bud" Phillips, has wrote about local and regional history, one includes The Wild Man of the Holston.
Shelby
Gary and I are classmates and friends. We’ve been hiking in the Smokies with our parents and have been to the places where Dennis, Trenny and Pauline vanished. Trenny must have been tricked.
Moderator
That’s the guy!
Gary
Yes, never personally meet him, he's a retired Search and rescue, tracker for the GSMNPS.
Moderator
Yes, Dwight McCarter has talked about the wild men, he has seen them in the mountains. If you are an East Tennessee lad, you probably know exactly who I’m talking about.
Gary
Thank you, great advice one point of interest is in Dennis Martin disappearance, the "wild men" the Appalachian mountains, has a legend of feral people living off grid, the Clinch Mountain for example
Moderator
Yes, lots of rumours. But we’re cutting to the chase, getting to the bottom of them. When you get into Trenny’s story, just ignore the rumours, and just keep your thinking straight. You’ll soon see
Gary
Trennys disappearance, is perplexing to say the least, no witnesses, she was observed leaving the trail, and the rest is rumour.
Gary
I hope Shelby and I can bring resolve to the families and friends of Dennis, Trenny and Pauline, may they rest in peace, got to go the bus is coming.
Shelby
The sociology class I’m in with Gary, is really interesting. We’re studying the Big 3 missing from GSMNP, Dennis Martin, Trenny Gibson and Pauline Melton. Such very different cases they are.
Moderator
Yes, if they are still out there, would love to hear what they had to say, too.
Dixie Linker
I met a couple of Bearden alumni, in the early 80's, my freshman year in college, we discussed Trenny's, disappearance, was just wondering if any of them are still around. Would love to catch up
Gary
Thank you, Sir,for your advice, and feel free send any more helpful hints you have. I'll start my research at the beginning of the new year and post my findings.
DJ
Gary, to compete your research library, get the US Army handbook on escape and evasion, and take your Paladin Press, how to books and look at the fundamental's of bugging out,verses her disappearance
Gary
I hit the mother lode at McKay Book's, got several survivalist publications, even the Turner Dairies.My Grand dad, says I'm in high cotton.
Moderator
Hi Gary. Welcome your questions, anytime. I have a Bearden classmate that has contacted me recently with new information regarding Trenny’s disappearance.
Gary
I have a question for the Moderator, I'm going to investigate the runaway probably ,my understanding that a the height of the survival movement,manuals was available.
Harv
Ok, I'm satisfied, at the beginning of the year I'll present this to the class, and but it to a democratic vote, sorry that wasn't political correctness, but it to a vote.
Harv
I get the fundamentals, kind of a classic snatch and grab case. Also seen about a altercation between her and another student, and the classic I didn't see a thing deal.Several cases solved this year.
Moderator
The rumours were necessary to cover tracks. “Trenny ran away”. “Stop nosing around or the same thing that happened to her, will happen to you”. Pretty big threats for a simple runaway case.
Harv
A student of mine connected me about Trenny's case, I've been reviewing her disappearance, to me looks like a lot of rumours, but this site fills in the blanks.
Moderator
There’s a classmate that claims she’s spoken with Trenny in the years since she’s been gone and that Trenny is tugging at her and wants to return. Could the California angle be checked out?
MarkBirkbank
I have been researching this and have come up empty. it’s possible that Trenny has changed her name. It was easier to disappear 40 years ago than it is now, but Trenny did not have the resources.
Harv
Was just interested to know, was watching a YouTube Vid, of a interview with a classmate of Trenny's that she staged her disappearance, and went to California, any information about this?
Moderator
Thank would be terrific, Gary. Please invite him to check out this site and let him know about Trenny’s story on “The Trail Went Cold” podcast, episode #100.
Gary
My teacher, is a big cold case fan, he was looking for a case for a class project after we come back from Christmas break, I mention, this would be a great case to investigate.
PolkSaladAnnie
Alchemy, I guess.😉. I’ve observed that from reading posts all over sites on the web about Trenny.
PolkSaladAnnie
Some of those kids could never account for their whereabouts when Trenny went missing, and changed stories over the years. How can you be on Andrews Bald one minute, and behind Trenny the next?
Moderator
Those tales worked for many years. It helped that along the way, someone(s)would add some gasoline to the fire.
Ed
True, as posted before a tale of misadventure, of someone unfamiliar with her surroundings, or of a runaway not very well planned, which contributed to her disappearance.
Pebbles76
Yes, by pushing the “Trenny Ran Away” rumour, then the school would have clean hands.
Lewis
And remember that the Knoxville City Schools, was in hot water too,but shifting the paper work around, doing a Madina Standard, putting the teacher, in " Command Responsibility".
Moderator
Yes, that’s a consideration
Arron
And don't forget that the school office was manned by students, so, wise ole Mister Owl, how many licks does it take?
Moderator
Yes, law enforcement should have probed the student body far more than they did.
Eddie
Yes, been way to long, if the FBI, and other law enforcement agencies would've coordinated there efforts, and not played politics this might've been resolved.
Moderator
Yes, one that has lasted more than 42 years. It’s high time the tide turned.
Greg
I noticed that, a tale of misadventure, that runs a gambit into abyss of rumours.
Moderator
Trenny running away was a cover story. In many cases, people of that generation like to blame the victim. In other cases, they are trying to deflect attention from themselves and their own misdeeds.
Greg
On YouTube I watched a fellow classmate, she explained, that Trenny, flew the coup, and went to California. Any truth to that, or just rumour.
Pebbles76
Because some of the students weren’t aware of what was happening andvthe others were no friends of hers.
Wayne
So close, she almost made it to the bus, shame no one run interference for her.
Pebbles76
There was a plan in place to get her alone, she was set up like that.
Moderator
I think she either had to go to the washroom or else something had happened between her and Robert when they were together and she just wanted to get back to the bus.
Terry
That's an enigma, it started at Andrew's Bold, when she stopped under the tree, to eat lunch, and soon after, her exodus to the the parking lot.
Donnie
The question, which they're is several post's asking this, why was Trenny in a hurry to get to the parking lot/bus, no one else was in such a hurry, and as pointed out, hiding in the scrub and moving
Sammy
True, Trenny, had plans she wasn't going to become a boom boom girl, like the other's.
Moderator
No she was too good for that/them. They knew it, too.
Sammy
Trenny, didn't "turn on, tune in, and drop out", like the other's.
Moderator
Yes and trying to discredit Trenny and those that may have thought differently. Heaven forbid that someone might think differently from them and have the vision that she was a good girl.
Sammy
Plus, from the rumours, different lifestyles.
Moderator
Yes, they weren't all cut from the same cloth. Some had their heads on straight
Sammy
But the possession, was one sided, the other part of the equation, had other idea's, and a future ahead of them.
Moderator
Don’t forget about “possession is 9/10 of the law”.
Lonnie
But quoting Crowley's, Book of the Law, the first law, there is no law.
Moderator
If they knew where they were headed, they may have brought along such gear. But it was the 70’s, many of them were probably holding.
Frank
Wondering if any of the students that participated in the field trip, had rucksacks, if so that's possibly how the beer was brought in.
JimmyJack
Very true. Trenny was very levelheaded, but due to the situation it looks like she said “Adios, MF*R, I’m hiking elsewhere”. Left Simpson, and continued on her own.
Moderator
Trenny was too levelheaded to do something ridiculous like hitchhike or walk back to Knoxville. The posters either knew nothing about her, the distance involved, or the Park itself.
Dale
If she was that determined to get out of Dodge, she could've hooked the Old Sugarland Trail, at Andrew's Bold, and walked straight into Gatlinberg, and called home.
Dale
Reading the comments of Reddit, about Trenny, decided IHTFP, and was going to hump it back to Knoxville, the 441, doesn't have a walk way, why risk, getting killed or hit by a vehicle.
Moderator
Yes, somebody’s girlfriend got a good prize. Stuff like that is bad karma.
Jeff
But the shocker, that I never heard before, was the trophy hunting, and other's wearing of her rings.
Moderator
That’s one theory yes. The other, is that the big game hunter was in cahoots with some others.
Charlie
One food for thought, wasn't her friend, the big game hunter, he was in close proximity to her when she disappeared.
Phil
Looks like it is her turn, and hear her roar.
Moderator
42 years is a good life for a well. It’s finally Trenny’s turn to have her say.
Phil
True, I guess the well finally has run dry on that theory.
Moderator
Yes, Robin does an excellent job on that podcast. It was the first time the case was profiled from a foul play perspective. Usually it’s shown as an accident or runaway.
Phil
Listen to The Trail Went Cold, Pod Cast yesterday about Trenny, very enlightening.
Moderator
Very well said, Michael. Thank you.
Michael LeBoeuf
The Candle of Life
The gift of life is like a candle. We are the wick. Our flame-warmth shared to lives gone cold; Our light-a beacon to the lost. Darkness-mournful remains of the candle, stolen.
Pebbles76
Yes and it’s my knowledge that Dunlap hung out with some of the kids in his horticulture class. He may have mentioned the destination to one or mire of them.
Scott
As with any school, you have the social privileged, the one's that are told before hand of any gatherings they might be invited, or participate in.
Starbuck
Yes, it could be that the teacher told a select few of the destination, but either did it mistakenly or just didn’t remember.
Scott
From my understanding, the teacher, was wanting it as a surprise, but interesting, that several knew ahead of time the destination.
Starbuck
I think it was likely that a parent or guardian may have worked or volunteered at Bearden. They learned the location of the field trip, and that’s why a few kids knew the destination. Just a thought
Don
Yes, I've noticed now that there's a hint of the paranormal with Trennys disappearance. A over testosterone quatch, was involved.
Moderator
Yes, I wonder about the sources at times, myself. You have to remember that many people were frightened at the goings on and the rumours, this may have kept them from coming forward until now.
Benny
Like so much with her disappearance, information has came forward, but most importantly, the timing of these post's, year's after the fact, makes you wonder if the sources.
Megan58_
Ok, so that’s what go him so angry. Really, what did he expect, a Hallmark card? I suppose the others blamed Trenny and her family.
Dave
Good question, was a home invasion of the Gibson's home, and a shooting, and vacation at Greeneville.
Megan58_
Why was the older classmate so against Trenny, I wonder? Did he have the support of the others?
Tim79
This is a two for one answer, most of that about the boyfriend, is rumour, to hurt.Yes there was a incident, that involved a older classmate.
Megan58_
Maybe I heard wrong, maybe he wanted to date her. But wasn’t there some kid involved that was bothering her at school? Maybe that’s why she left. Couldn’t handle it.
Tim79
I myself, never heard that rumour, until here in the past few years , as far as I heard, Trenny wasn't dating.
Megan58_
Wasn’t Trenny dating some black guy at the time she went missing? That’s what I heard. That she left and ran off with him.
Moderator
Amen to that
Mike
And made it where no one could, even the one's that truly loved her.
Moderator
Yes, and he wanted what he couldn’t have
Mike
True, I guess, he had a different definition of what friendship meant.
Moderator
Yes and so sad that a good friend of his left Trenny to go home alone.
Mike
True, they were very close, growing up, very sad, him coming home for a reunion with his family, and discovering his sister missing.
Moderator
You bet he was. Trenny wouldn’t have missed that for anything.
Mike
Robert, was coming home that weekend. Trenny, disappeared.
Moderator
I’m not sure of the distinction. He was honourably discharged in April of 77.
Mike
So, Robert, would be a considered a Vietnam veteran then, the U.S. Pulled out in 1975, and The South surrendered in 1976.
Moderator
Yes, that’s right. He was coming home on leave the very weekend Trenny disappeared.
Mike
True, that's what I was wondering, Robert Jr, graduated in 1975, went with the Navy, If I remember correctly was stationed in Guam.
Moderator
Yes, there was a rumour that she was seen in a car in North Carolina after she went missing. It’s so easy to mistakenly identify people when they are in a vehicle. It goes with the runaway theory.
Mike
My question is, I've heard, and this might be possible rumors, that after her disappearance, they was sightings of Trenny.
Moderator
Jeep Trail, yes. And taken deep into the woods with a 4 wheel drive vehicle. Adult intervention had to be a factor as well.
Willie
Also, Robert, was told of the use of a possible keep trail used in Trennys disappearance.
Moderator
I’m sure that they did, but in the 1970’s, convictions without a body were virtually unheard of. And you also had the school backing up the students in regards to Trenny running away.
Willie
But the sad thing, was the FBI, like in the Dennis Martin case, they had evidence, but didn't take it seriously.
Moderator
Yes she did. And being a conquest of her hiking partner was probably not among them.
Willie
True, Trenny, had high goals set for herself.
Moderator
It also comes from wanting what you can’t have, I think he was someone used to getting whatever he wanted, whenever he wanted it. And Trenny spurned him, likely.
Willie
He probably thought the rut was in, and had his nose high in the air sniffing for the odor of love.
Moderator
Judging by his looks in those days, and the moniker Suitcase, I guess he had to get it where he could, when he could. He also had, I’m told, a penchant for sniffing shoes.
Willie
Very true, for him to possibly understand, how his best friend, wasn't there to defend his little sister, out chasing white tails, or any tail, he could find.
Moderator
Yes, his feet were in rough shape. Trenny and Bob were best friends, and losing her broke his heart. He had to take a discharge from the Navy the following year, too hard to concentrate.
Willie
I heard Robert, her bother searched for Trenny, for day's, had to stop because his feet started bleeding.
Moderator
Yes, strong resemblance. Very close knit family, with Trenny at the centre of the unit. The three older children looked much alike.
Jason
I never realized, how much Trenny, looked like her mom.
Moderator
Only wish that we knew the answer. Perhaps the teacher didn’t want to disappoint the students, so they went ahead with the trip.
11 Bravo
But with the weather conditions that day, why was the trip not cancelled?
Moderator
That was a set up. She needed to be alone to set the next part of the plan in motion.
Jimmy Jack
Leaves a lot of unanswered questions, of why she was in a hurry, hiking alone.
Moderator
Yes, you’re right. One of the lamest excuses I’ve heard. If that was the excuse he gave Trenny to go on without him on the field trip, she must not have been thinking clearly.
Jimmy Jack
According to Robert's statement, he was quote tracking bear, but does make one wonder, if he was tracking bipedal white tails.
LeftBank
Was Trenny trying to get away and get to the safety of the bus? Why wasn’t Robert walking with her?
Moderator
She did startle a classmate, seeming to appear out of nowhere onto the trail. Very heavy fog and mist though, that day. Things look differently and sound differently with all the moisture in the air
Possum
I've noticed that too, she would come out of no nowhere, walk with a group, then hurry on , and appear with another.
Starbuck
She’s about a mover.
Point Man
From what I've read from the internet, Trenny, was making a dash for the parking lot, as doing two tour's in Afganistan, I know what it like being in Indian Country, not knowing friend from foe.
Moderator
Yes, it could’ve just been people wanting to be left alone. Wrong place at the wrong time.
Steve
The people in the van, might've been having a secert rendezvous, married to other people.
Moderator
The one thing that was mentioned was a white van in the Clingman’s parking lot, I know we’ve talked about it before on this board. The people in the van were gruff and short with the kids when asked.
Steve
The weather that day was rainy and foggy, would've been a perfect set up for abduction, but as far as I know, no one seen anyone lurking around.
Starbuck
Yes, the abduction thought came too late in the game, it was the family that pushed that theory. It was thought that she was lost in the wilderness, then you had the classmates taking runaway.
Mike
The worse part is that alot of the leads wasn't persuaded, the tower wasn't investigated, or searched, they first thought she was lost, until later that they discovered a possible abduction.
Moderator
Yes. It’s just too bad that she was long gone from the trail, and nobody searched the tower with dogs.
Mike
Also , have you noticed Trenny, was tracked on a lot of trails.
Starbuck
Yes, exactly.
Willie
True, Like when Freddie, tells Shaggy, Scooby, and Valma, to check the basement, and.says, him and Daphne, will go up stairs, and check the bedrooms.
Starbuck
Ah yes. The rhyme was really about the collapse of the British government. Maybe it’s a sign of things to come, the collapse/failure of another organization.
Willie
Yes, like the Humpty Dumpty conspiraist, think, that the King had him pushed from off the wall.
MessyCake59
It’s elementary to most that she didn’t run away, I guess that leaves the latter.
Tim
Yes, rumours then, and even persist today, from running away, to being murdered.
MessyCake59
It’s crazy to think that Trenny, and being close to her family like she was, would willingly disappear, and cease all contact for more than 40 years.
Starbuck
Trenny was very special, her disappearance affected many. Some can still remember where they were, etc, when they first heard about it.
Tim
I don't have much to add, except, I remember when this happened, I was in Junior High,never knew her, but meet people that did, the world lost a very special person, that day.
Moderator
Trenny and Robert we’re friends, yes. And Robert was a good friend of Trenny’s older brother, which is how she became acquainted with him. He was on the field trip that day.
Moderator
Yes, she would have had to known the person well in order to step off the trail for them. Or they made a noise to get her to step off trail to investigate.
Billy
I heard or saw on another site, that her brothers best friend was also present that day, wonder where he was at the time.
Billy
Must've been some one she knew, and trusted then, for her to go off the trail.
Moderator
Let’s put it this way. Someone got her attention strongly enough to get her to step off the trail. I don’t know if they made a sound, waves or what, but she was interested enough to go to the source
Mountain Hiker
So, it wasn't intentional her idea to go off the trail, someone or something, was pressuring her, or escaping danger.
Moderator
Off-trail was a dangerous place to be. I’m not sure how the perp(s) got Trenny to step off the trail and go to them. They must have made a noise, someone waved at her or something.
Mountain Hiker
The Smokies, staying on the trails, you would have single canopy, and depending on the trail, not much problems, but off grid, could encounter thick brush, double and triple canopy, and lose direction
Wildcat 3
He must've had it bad, making advances with it pouring the rain, and in open country.
Pebbles76
Likely. But there’s only 2 people who know the answer to that for sure. We know where 1 of them is.
Wildcat 3
So, she was alone with someone, and was being pressured into doing something, she wasn't ready for, or didn't want to do.
Pebbles76
I think it went down when she went off the trail. She may have had an inkling, maybe not. A lot of bitterness, anger, sprinkled with jealousy. And wanting something/someone that you couldn’t have.
Wildcat 3
You think, she was under pressure, being pursued, or getting away from something, for her going off grid, like she did.
Pebbles76
It’s ridiculous to think Trenny was going to runaway from the field trip, she hadn’t been to the Smokies before, how would she arrange pickup, etc? And she didn’t take anything with her, either.
Wildcat 3
I'm having a problem with this, her escape and evasion plan, was she going to lay dog, and try to walk out or what.
Moderator
Indeed, another teacher or a few parent chaperones. It would be ridiculous to think a few of the students wouldn’t sneak off with the lack of supervision.
Alex
Would look like in his position as a teacher, he would've seen, he couldn't handle that large of student's, and in a open environment, a national forest, would've asked for another teacher.
Moderator
Dunlap did hike with the students, kind of bringing up the rear, etc. But there were 40 of them and only 1 of him. No way could he keep track of everybody, what they were doing, etc.
Alex
True, but the teacher, where was he, in all this, was he over whelmed, with forty student's, or just fiddle farting around
Moderator
See or hear no evil. Trenny was off trail, and it wouldn’t take much to subdue a petite, 115 pound girl. I doubt she had a chance to make a peep.
Alex
Yes, I seen several comments about the similarities between the two,and also, which I read the comments, no one seen or heard anything, which flies a red flag, to me.
Moderator
Yes, the both went missing from the same area, Trenny and Susan Clements. Some even commented that they looked similar. Susan was found in the Huggins Creek drainage. Trenny’s still stuck up there.
Alex
Well I'm no genesis, my first time, never knew her story, until the missing hiker at Clingmans Dome, and several references made about Trenny.
Moderator
You’ve absolutely right. It was a cover story. One of the best kind, that has lasted more than 40 years. Heaven forbid that anyone would take it upon themselves to stop and think.
Alex
You hit that right, going to runaway, with no money, no plans, no where to run too, would almost think it was a cover up story.
Moderator
No, she wasn’t sure of the destination. The one thing that always made me shake my head at Trenny’s case was the amount of people who believed that she had to go to the Park to run away.
Stewie
And one more, also she wasn't sure of the distinction of the field trip, so without any planning she went ahead and runaway. Makes sense.
Moderator
Short answer, No.
Stewie
Thank you, for your help, I'm new.Is it also true Trenny, participated in the field trip, and then went over the hill, later in the day.
Moderator
Welcome to the “Trenny Didn’t Run Away”, flock Stewie! Look forward to hearing more from you.
Stewie
After reading several websites, and publications, about Trenny, running away, I still can't understand with no money, or transportation, or articles of clothing, she bugged out.
Moderator
Trenny had the coat on when she vanished. She had the comb in the right hip pocket of her jeans and was really attached to it.
Stewie
One question,this is about her friend that was in possession of Trennys comb, I believe he's the same person that loaned her his coat, could the comb, been in a pocket, when she returned his coat.
Moderator
It would be great if some more of the classmates that were on the trip that day would post on here and enlighten us all.
Crow
True, atmospheric conditions, plus topography can and will reflect and distort sound, but they're was witnesses that stated they were within feet of her at the time of her disappearance.
Leroy
Yes, puzzling, not no one heard a sound, might been atmospheric conditions that day, read when MT St. Helens erupted, that area's in close proximity didn't here a sound.
Ramone
But the problem, they tracked her to several locations.The tower, would be a ideal place, that service road, the Hazel Creek, and Appalachian Trail, are all near by, plus the time's are questionable.
Patty
Hey Chuck , yes. good point about the tower. that where she was tracked too. With road there, She could have been taken that route .they heard nothing or seen nothing.
Pebbles76
He must have been stone deaf. They were hanging out in his patch, talking to Mary Jane.
Weapon Brown
But remember, The Great Punkin, seen or heard nothing.
Moderator
If that’s where she is, her captors took an awful chance being discovered, unless she was put inside the room at the base of the tower.
Weapon Brown
I always thought, Trenny, was located in or around the tower, on the North Carolina side, plus looking through the site, I didn't know of the room under the ramp, until I saw the picture.
Moderator
Yes. It would’ve been shrouded in fog, too. Weather conditions were in the abductors favour that night.
Ricco
Yes, but the tower, would've been a great place to hide someone, until the heat was cooled off.
Moderator
The caller with info about the creeks was not taken seriously enough. Nor was the fact that Robert had Trenny’s comb or the rumour circulating about her jewelry.
Moderator
Trenny’s scent was tracked to the base of the tower by several different dogs. As far as I can tell, the tower itself, like the observation deck, etc was never searched.
Ricco
I always wondered if it was close by the tower, on the North Carolina side.
Moderator
Yes, it was out of the search area, the cemetery. The actual tower on Clingman's Dome was not searched, either.
Trek On
Yes, they do converge at the cemetery, plus I also believe that was out of the search area.
Starbuck
I think it was a tip that definitely should have been explored further than it was.
Gary 7
The FBI, apparently took the caller, as meaning water ways, but from a previous post, the West prong of the Little Piegoen, and Abrams Creek to meet, at the Old Sugarland Cemetery.
Boots
Frog , were they talking about trails meeting or water ways?
Sunshine
When I was in college, my roommate, who likes her dope, would talk about a girl from Knoxville. Don’t remember her name. She went missing in the Smokies, then was found murdered.
Frog
Yes, and also gave a location, where two prongs meet, but apparently they was no follow up.
Weezer
I remember reading during the search for Trenny, the FBI, received a call, stating she was stabbed and raped.
Starbuck
Yes, I’m sure that Trenny sleeps in the Smoky’s someplace.
Boots
I hiking up last week come upon mound dirt with flowers round it.it was werid looking .
In Country
One interesting note, my wife and I was at a gift shop in Gatlinburg, and over heard a lady, telling the clerk see seen what looked like a grave to her.
Moderator
Yes, Trenny’s case is definitely full of both of those
Lone Hiker
Ok, my bad, with all the theories, and rumours, around easy to get confused from fact to fiction.
Moderator
It was a psychic that said that they saw Trenny there, frozen in a sitting position. Lots of acorns on the ground in the area and squirrels running around.
Lone Hiker
But the caller, also described a small cave, in the ravine where she was located, which they called a bear cave.
Moderator
Trails are what I think they meant, too
Grunt
Plus, the conditions that day, raining, maybe a wet weather spring close by.
Grunt
True, but could they've been describing two trail's, like the Abrams Creek Trail, as example.
Moderator
The caller said that she could be found where 2 creeks meet, but while the creeks are in the park, they do not meet at any point.
Grunt
The missing hiker, was found in Higgins Creek Drainage, probably a dry creek bed, reading the stories, of Trenny's, disappearance, didn't the FBI, receive a call Trenny could be in a ravine.
Starbuck
I didn’t hear anything about jewelry found recently, I heard rumours years ago that the one of the classmates had some of Trenny’s jewelry in her possession. She was supposed to return it and didn’t.
Boots
I heard the same thing ,but i heard they find jewelry that was old. Like rings, And there is markings on tree three trigngles in circle it looks very old .And they did close park extra day.
Starbuck
Could be anything, could mean anything. I was hoping that something of Trenny’s had been found.
Hiker Jim
I heard a similar rumour, old markings on a tree.
Starbuck
😳
Like what?
1 Tango Echo
My wife and I , we're vacationing in Gatlinberg, this weekend, we over heard another couple talking, they mentioned that something of interest was found, beside the missing hiker.
Sgt. Rock
"Your memory is my keepsake,with which we'll never part,God has you in his keeping, I have you in my heart"
Boots
There road beside Observation Tower.
Ghost Rider
I've wondered if the Observation Tower, was used in Trennys disappearance, I know, the tower was never checked at the time, but another place a room that's under the ramp could've been used
SallyGoRound
I’m new to this board, I attended Farragut around the time Trenny vanished. I’m a year younger than her. There were rumours of a white van in the parking lot at Clingman’s Dome.
Blip
One big question, was any suspicious vehicles seen the the parking lot that day.to hide someone, it would had to been a delivery van like vehicle.
Moderator
I wonder if there’s a way to find it if there was private property in the Park in that general area. Where they’d not run the risk of being on Park property and the repursussions. Need more info.
Blip
Yes, that's why, that rumour, was the proverbial grain of salt, not sure if any service roads are in that area, plus federal land's.
Superstar
Trespassing on Federal Land is a serious offence.
Blip
This is also interesting, they was a rumour, of a jeep, and a trail that was used, during her disappearance
Moderator
They didn’t move her immediately. She was held someplace 1st. My 2 cents.
Trek On
If they used the AT, that would've mean taking her back up the trail, she got off of, they would've meet her classmate's coming down the trail, alerting them of a kidnapping.
Moderator
It’s thought that her captor(s) May have used the Appalachian trail to move her.
Trek On
Plus, this was mentioned before, where Trenny, went off trail, was no where near the Appalachian Trail.
Moderator
There were broken twigs and ferns where she exited the trail.
Wild Bill
True, but as Sarge, mentioned strange, my understanding, is where she exited the trail, lead to a bluff.
Moderator
Someone or something in the brush got her attention. That’s why she paused and looked at something, then seemed to go to the right. She was walking alone but had students in front of her and behind.
Sarge
But, the most strange aspects is that they were people that claimed ,they were mere feet from her when she disappeared.
Bootsie_25
No, the park was probably relatively quiet. And who knows if many people even knew they (Bearden) were even going to be there.
Magnum
True, but remember, it was a school, and work day, so the park and the trails wouldn't be crowded.
Bootsie_25
Why would someone leave the Park with her, necessarily? All kinds of places to stash a body right there as long as nobody stumbled across what you were doing. Or you could shut them up.
Captain
I've heard both.
Superstar
I’ve heard about 1 or 2 of the girls having her jewelry, but nothing came of it. Or are you talking about other possessions?
Captain America
One rumour, that persisted, for many years, was that they were person's wearing personal property of Trenny's.
Wild Bill
Yes, I've read posts that mentioned that she might have ventured on the AT.
Superstar
She didn’t have the time to take any other trail, let alone travel. She was grabbed off the one she was on. I’d say she was dead within 30 minutes.
Wild Bill
Since your correcting wrongs, the one about Trenny, getting on, or traveling the Appalachian Trail, If traveling South the next city would be Murphy, NC, If traveling North would be Bristol, TN
Superstar
No problem, Man. I think most people know how she disappeared. I’m just tired of the cover up is all.
Wolfhound
Yes, I understand, a lot of misleading theories out there concerning Trenny, that's why I posted to correct a wrong
Superstar
Ok, just checking. No patience for the “fell down a mine shaft, fell into a hole, fell off a cliff, or had an episode due to the medication she was taking for her foot”.
Wolfhound
No, just wanted to clarify, the area that Trenny, was hiking, from other site's I've read about falling into a shaft, I was just making the point that the Clingman Dome, was once farm land.
Superstar
You’re not one of those “Trenny fell into an old mining what, etc” theorists, I hope.
Wolfhound
Glad you mentioned that, one misconception's, is the Clingman Dome, area, was farming and grazing land, as far as I know, the mining was back towards the Pigeon forge, area.
Superstar
It made the Smokies a great place to hide a body, that’s what it was like.
Wolfhound
Yes, good point, Superstar, that storm, hit the whole region, can only imagine what the Smokies where like.
Superstar
Which in turn made it very easy for the perps to cover their tracks and obliterate any evidence of a crime. Lucky bastards!
Wolfhound
The weather, really influenced the search for Trenny, soon after her disappearance, was when the blizzard from the lake Lake's, hit.
Superstar
Happily ever after got skipped over as well. She sleeps in the Smokies, running away was just a cover story.
Wolfhound
Been reviewing the runaway theme, the only problem I see is it needs " *Once upon a time", in front of it.
Donna Brock
I would like to know anything about Trenny's family. I went to church with Trenny was in her home often. Who is the author of this blog?
Moderator
That would be me. I don’t appear on here because I want this site about Trenny, not me.
Mud Rat
Wishing Trenny, a Happy Birthday.
Giani
Robert went tracking a bear, interesting. This truly a baffling case. No way she got lost. I visited the trail, no reason for her to leave the trail at all. She looked to the right and disappeared
Moderator
Looked to the right, stepped off and vanished into oblivion. Someone/something got her attention first.
As for Robert and the fabled bear, give me a break.
Thanks for commenting, Gianni!👍😀
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Moderator
The scene must be set for what really happened that day, once and for all.
1 step 2 step
Yes enlightening, make''s the scene more clear, not fiction, as it once was.
Moderator
Thank You, Tracker.
Tracker
Great site, Kudo''s, very precise information, and getting away from the theories that have persists.
Allan
Pebbles, can you get your hands on a 1976/77,.Echo, look on page 191, bottom of the page, left corner.
Pebbles76
Oh look, Kids! Is this Mr. Gibby or equivalent?
Allan
Pebbles, Are your familiar with the YouTube, smear campaign, the person that was interviewed.
Pebbles76
Like what? Could the students that worked in the office done something?
AbbyGrace
Nobody. They’d get no place if they did anyway. Little did the principal know what skulduggery was going on in his school
Blue Tick
Good point again, because who would question the principal.
AbbyGrace
And unless you believe everything that you’re told, records can be altered, etc. We don’t know if the principal personally saw the suspect in school that day.
Blue Tick
Yes, Good point, my sister was a office worker when she was at Bearden.
AbbyGrace
That’s what the principal said. How can he be certain? Maybe he had a good “friend” doing the attendance records, the suspect.
Blue Tick
Question, one of the suspects was in school that day, I believe the individual that broke into the Gibson's home, him being in school, how could they believe he was responsible.
Lookincookie_62
Theories, lies and rumours. Of course some of those students knew more, but it’s not for the telling.
Thunder Road
No, that's the theroy, she was very mature for her age, shy, with a million dollar smile, she liked to read and very close with her family.
Lookincookie_62
I knew she worked at Morrison’s in the Mall. Seemed like a nice levelheaded young lady. I never thought she’d be the runaway type.
Thunder Road
Yes, Trenny, set your goals early, she had been working at the West Town Mall, and saving her money too attend college, she was planning on studying to be a Architect, at UT at Knoxville.
Lookincookie_62
I wonder what plans Trenny had for when she graduated, if she planned to work or go to college, etc?
Jinxie
That’s so true, and tells the others to be quiet, or dictates what it is they can say.
Pellissippi State
Yes, I noticed that also, seems like one group has control.
Jinxie
Wouldn’t that be a nice change of pace. It seems like some want to discredit her.
Pellissippi State
What would be great is if someone would post something positive about Trenny, instead of the one sided negativism.
Pebbles76
Yes, she’ll be 16 years old forever.
UTK
Was looking at Trenny''s, remark in the yearbook, sad her last summer vacation.
Mr. Bojangles
Some people don’t get past things well
East Knox
Yes, does look very well indeed, plus with the home invasion issue, by a fellow student.
Mr.Bojangles
Set up
East Knox
Yes, very true, is like they was a time table used.
Mr.Bojangles
You think she was ambushed earlier than that?
West Knox
Also, from a previous post, the time's given, very questionable, exactly at 3:00, when she was heading back too the bus.
Mr. Bojangles
More like someone stole it, and blamed it on someone else (holding onto it).
West Knox
The fact that she would allow, I believe, the ring was a birthday gift from her parent's, someone else hold the ring, and not retrieve her ring back.
Mr.Bojangles
And then what happened? Did she keep it? Was does that have to do with Trenny going missing?
West Knox
Why I ask, is I heard an intriguing rumour, that a fellow student, was in possession of Trenny's ring, the story goes, Trenny, gave the ring too a friend, while she washed her hands.
My. Bojangles
Yes, it is. They had to get her alone, then get her off the trail. If the kid(s) were involved, what was the motive?
West Knox
One of the most intriguing aspects of Trenny's, disappearance, is did she know her kidnappers.
Mr. Jingles
If the kid(s) could have been the ones to harm Trenny, how did they get her to go off of the trail?
South Doyle
Just before Trenny disappeared, she seemed to be in a hurry, like she was trying to get away from someone or something.
Pebbles76
Yes, if it wasn’t for Simpson being her brother’s friend, Trenny wouldn’t have given him another thought.
Karns
I would like to add the misconception, from the Disappearance''s in the Smokies, and Missing 411,.Trenny and Robert Simpson, wasn't dating, Robert Simpson, was a friend of Trenny 's bother Robert.
Aldo
Yes, very true.
Pebbles76
The smear campaign has gone on long enough. She should have been a bit more careful about whom she associated with, but she was not a bad person.
Aldo
True, I've meet people that knew Trenny, they said she was a very quiet and nice person.
Pebbles76
That was more HER behaviour than Trenny’s.
Aldo
That's the way she described her demeanor, hanging out with the wrong crowd.
Pebbles76
Yes, I did. Talk about trying to discredit someone and deflect attention from the REAL story. I hope they come and post over here. Wild as a buck? Where do you get that idea from?
Aldo
Pebs, talking about theories, did you see the YouTube segment of the Classmate telling Trenny, was wild as a buck.
Pebbles76
It’s ok, that’s just what’s wrong with this whole story, too many rumours, not enough hard facts. Trenny was too levelheaded to run away, and she wouldn’t have ran from there.
Aldo
I know, that's a rumour, Pebbles, didn't mean too fire you up.
Pebbles76
She DID not run away, dammit!
Aldo
Well, the uncertainty of the time, has been an enigma, the rumour was she met her boyfriend, and ranaway, but she participated still with the hike.
Pebbles76
OK. It would have had th have been earlier rather than later when she vanished, is that what you’re saying, Aldo?
Not saying you’re wrong, just elaborate on it a bit,please.
Aldo
Glad, someone else noticed that too.
Dino Boy
Aldo, does have a good point, Pebs, it take them over 2.5 hours, from Bearden, to Clingman Dome, from what they say.
Pebbles76
You’re saying the time when Trenny was last seen is inaccurate?
Aldo
True, but they our going with the classmate's, stated time's, that has always been a question.
Pebbles76
Good possibility, Aldo. It was a job for more than 2, and 1 was on a field trip and had a time constraint.
Aldo
Since you two, are one the subject, the quiet rumour was that they both played a part in the disappearance.
Pebbles76
Maybe doing some collaborating. Schools aren’t perfect, maybe they were mistaken about Bowman being in school that day, October 8, 1976.
Dino Boy
I heard, that him and Robert Simpson, use to hang out a lot.
Pebbles76
He had the students scared of him and willing to do anything for him.
Dino Boy
The story around the neighborhood was he was drunk, or high, they was a rumour she was stalking Trenny, but was trying to find her brother Robert.
Pebbles76
It should have been sent higher. What a nut. Do you suppose he was there to rob the place or was it the girls he wanted?
Dino Boy
He took away a souvenir, made of lead.
Pebbles76
Yes. So Bowman didn’t get a whole bunch for trying to break into the Gibson’s, did he?
Dino Boy
Hey, Pebbles, you loaded and locked today.
Pebbles76
Can’t afford any stupid mistakes where they’re concerned
Dino Boy
Ok, good to be careful, and cautious any more.
Pebbles76
Nobody wants a loose cannon or someone with loose lips. Especially that class. Too risky.
Dino Boy
No, just cautious, mother Mcgue, didn't raise a cowboy.
Pebbles76
Guarded like the rest of the class of 76-77?
Dino Boy
Yes, Didn't know whom I was talking with.
Pebbles76
Checking to see if I went to Bearden?
Dino Boy
Ok, I was just making sure.
Pebbles76
Chess club for sure
Dino Boy
What after school activity did he sponsored.
Pebbles76
Sure did. Best teacher ever
Dino Boy
Pebbles, did you have Mr. Ensley.
Dino Boy
Yes, he was healthy looking, opposite from his sister.
Pebbles76
So he went to lunch a lot and was well fed, lol? Yes, that was him.
Dino Boy
I heard rumors, of such, he was a well feed, and yes I heard he take made trips to West Town, and lunch.
Pebbles76
You wouldn’t have been able to miss him if you’d seen him anywhere, one big dude. Pretty sloppy, too. But he had a car, and was willing to take you wherever you wanted to go.
Dino Boy
I didn't know him that well, his sister Susan, was a year ahead of me.
Pebbles76
Simpson looks totally different now than he did back in those days, we’re talking more than 40 years after all.
Starbuck
I heard that do. Could be weird or totally harmless.
Dino Boy
My sister, said she heard that he took several on fishing trips.
Starbuck
Johnson City was what I heard. I guess he used to ha dvout with some of the kids from Bearden when he taught there in the ‘70’s.
Dino Boy
Wayne Dunlap, I heard a rumour back several year's ago, he was in Johnson City, or Jonesboro.
Starbuck
It was alright, just smaller. I like the larger places. I think the old Bearden teacher that was on the field trip the day Trenny vanished lives there now.
Dino Boy
Me too, we was there at the same time. Did you like Johnson City, the Mall wasn't nothing compared to West Town.
Starbuck
ETSU for me. Class of 1985.
Dino Boy
I bleed, Blue and Gold, I studied the Earth Science.
Starbuck
Where did you go to college, major in?
Dino Boy
Yes, several I forget her name, but was a friend of my big sister, her parents moved I think she went and graduated from Farragut.
Starbuck
I think many of the kids that were on the trip that day came from that neighbourhood.
Dino Boy
Yes, Rock Hill, was my home until I went too college.
Starbuck
Wow! Saw a lot of action. My Dad drove a tractor all day. When he wasn’t on horseback.
You came from RockyHill?
Dino Boy
He was a co pilot with the 134th, Air Refueling Wing, started flying the varient of The B-29 Superfortress, the KB-29 P, and then the KC 135 Stratotanker.
Starbuck
Trenny may have carried your tray at one time, then. What did your Dad do at the airport?
Dino Boy
Yes, my father was in the Air Guard, at McGhee Tyson, mom would gather us up, and meet him at West Town, at Morrison's.
Starbuck
I thought she worked at West Town Mall at Morrison’s
Dino Boy
Never heard she diid, just hung out with.
Starbuck
Yes, better living through chemistry. I hope it was just the crowd that liked it, and she didn’t overindulge.
Dino Boy
My older sister, knew Trenny, said she was a nice person and a killer smile, they was a mention of a crowd that liked the herb.
Starbuck
Do you remember Tina well? Trenny seemed to hang out with a fast crowd, not sure if she was one of them or not.
Dino Boy
Yes, never really knew Trenny, her sister Tina, was a year ahead of me in school.
Starbuck
Cool, you remember them well?
Dino Boy
I remember when this happened, the Gibson's lived a block over from us, remember seeing Trenny and her mother doing yard work together.
TrailMaster
UpNorth, Interesting you say that, I've heard similar stories.
UpNorth
Could she have possibly been set up/attacked by a group of students & things went too far??
Jinxie
I think the FBI questioned him about it
Trek on
But also, he's the one that ran, when comforted by her parents, isn't he.
Jinxie
Kind of a rumour, but apparently Trenny was missing but Robert had her comb. It’s either a giant red herring that comb, or the smoking gun.
Trek on
Was he also in person that was in possession of property of the missing girl, a comb, or something.
Jinxie
He said he was tracking a bear or something like that
Trek on
Was he the one that was Near hunting, or something.
Jinxie
A few groups of two, and Robert Simpson seems to have been alone. No one talked about hiking with him after Trenny did.
Trek on
Question, was anyone else hiking alone, beside the girl.
Jinxie
Don’t know where the teacher was exactly, and really, 1 teacher for 40 kids? WTF?
I just thought it was consensus she was gone
Trek on
Also, read the post where the student's claimed the girl was gone, when back at the bus.
Trek on
But, the question was posed before, where was the teacher, surely he didn't neglect his responsibilities.
Jinxie
Only if it had two legs
Trek on
Jinxie, wonder if something happened, a bear frighten her, or possibly a Timber Rattler spooked her.
Jinxie
I guess none of them found it odd she was was walking so rapidly. And it’s not off to be a girl alone in the mountains?
Trek on
Jinxie, true, from what I read she was with several other classmates, but whom claim that Trenny, choose to hike a lone, but they claim she was in a hurry to get to the parking lot.
Jinxie
Yes, and they failed to protect her. They aren’t friends most people would want. Not many had much nice to say.
Trek on
Jinxie, Remember when WBIR, open their investigation several months ago, and read the comments, I assume from Trennys, classmates most weren't very nice, and degrading.
Jinxie
Looking back through old Bearden yearbooks on Classmates.com, there is no remembrance for Trenny, she’s not on the memorial page or anything. It’s like they don’t want to remember. Why?
Dirks_girl80
Wasn’t there some other teacher on that fiekd trip, like a student teacher? Does anyone know?
Dialed in
Dirks girl80, Maybe so, put looks like he had to pay the talisman.
Dirks_girl80
Maybe the school skidded him after he lost Trenny in the mountains or he only had a contract to teach flower arranging for one year.
Dialed in
College boy, I graduated from a different High School, but knew several from Bearden, the way I remember Mr. Dunmore, didn't return the next year.
Dirks_girl80
Maybe the school had to call their insurance company before notifying the Gibson’s.
College boy
Yes, I read Trenny, missed roll call back at the bus at 3:30PM, and her mother was contacted from a school official at around 8PM.
Ladybugz
I know, a real staff full of winners. Wait 5 hours to notify the family.
Boots
HEY , they did not call her mother or father about five hours later.
College boy
The school possibility seen the teacher's mistake, made allotment to cover their track's.
Ladybugz
The teacher taught Ornamental Horticulture. Never mentioned hiking with the kids. Probably at a ranger station drinking coffee.
College boy
And another observation, where was the teacher, why wasn't he with the student's.
Ladybugz
Never did make sense that theory. It seems to be what the assumption was, but if you think about it, it hardly makes any sense. Maybe the school was behind it too?
College boy
The runaway rumour, doesn't fit or make logical sence, why planning to runaway, would you continue to participate in the hike.
Ladybugz
Total guilt. Total boredom. Who knows?
College boy
Question, why would a person wait forty plus years, to resume a search.
Ladybugz
Imagine being dragged or frogmarched down it. They must have waited until dusk.
College boy
Yes, that's it, spooky, and nightmarish.
Ladybugz
Is that like the pic on this site?
College boy
Why I mentioned this, I saw a spooky picture on the internet, the trail the kidnappers, took Trenny, looks like the Hazle Creek Trail.
Ladybugz
There was a classmate commenting on a hiking site on FB about going to the Smokies around that same time to look for clues about Trenny. WTH, 40 years late?
College boy
That's what I was wondering, caused much damage.
Ladybugz
Close to it I believe. Maybe it disturbed something
College boy
Was that in or near the search area.
Ladybugz
Yes, around 2014 or do, I think
College boy
The tornado, that hit the Western part of the park, that was down below Clingmans Dome wasn't it.
Canadiangurl77
Yes, if you went to Bearden in 1976 and knew Trenny, or were along on the field trip the day she disappeared, please comment.
Hellcat
Any Bearden Classmate's out their.
Dirks_girl
It was my understanding that it was a different guy, Trenny met him when she was working at Morrisin’s. He was a black man and several years older than she was.
Quatch
Didn't he get shot by her mom.
Dirks_girl
It was a lot more than just a rumour. I knew him
Quatch
Dirks girl, that's only a rumour that's never been proved, A classmate was stalking her in her freshman year in High School.
Dirks_girl
If Trenny took off voluntarily, what did you hope to find? I’ve been told she was dating a black man, a big deal in 1976, and was sneaking around so that her folks didn’t find out.
Wanderling
Dirks girl, posibly she was last seen around 3PM, the kidnapper, would be pressed for time, might have made mistakes.
Quach
You know, that's a great suggestion, if a group of people could go and retrace the girls movement's, might found something.
Dirks_girl
Wanderling, are you saying that her resting place is marked somehow? How would you know that?
Wanderling
Dirks girl, You could retrace the search area, for a any cairn, plus dial in on the area's out of where it wasn't searched.
Ladybugz
Sorry, Starbuck! I’ll try to behave.
Starbuck
Can you two either get a room or stick to the subject, please?
Wanderling
I'm always game, plus your local to me, we could meet at the mall, in JC, if you like
Ladybugz
Hidden Valley, Washington County. We should get together and check out the Sugarlands together, Sugar, if you’re game.
Dirks_girl80
Do you two really think going on a hike is going to turn up anything after more than 40 years? The search dogs, the park personnel couldn’t find her, what makes you think you will? She’s gone.
Wanderling
Tennessee, a area called Chick Pen, you.
Ladybugz
Where do you hail from, Sweetie?
Wanderling
Very, Lady Bugz, makes you wonder, about the whole incident.
Ladybugz
And isn’t it odd how the consensus among the students was that Trenny must have run off?
Wanderling
I've wondered that myself.
Ladybugz
The timeline was always a grey area I think. It could’ve happened earlier than that.
Quatch
According to the Eastern Missing 411, book, the students were telling the teacher, the girl was gone when they reached the bus at 3:30 PM, whe is was discovered missing.
Ladybugz
Nobody saw Trenny after about 3pm. The teacher stated that he didn’t think Trenny was the runaway type.
Tears 1976
Hi Boots
Boots
Hi you all
Ladybugz
I know what you mean, it’s on the spur of the old Sugarland Trail, at the Sugarland Cemetary.
Wanderling
Was the call, that mentioned the two water ways, the NPS, made a mistake wasn't the water ways, but the fork of Abram's Creek Trail, and the West Prong of the Little Pigeon River.
Wanderling
I'm very familiar with the Clingman Dome, area, hike it several time's. The most interesting aspect, was the call the NPS, received about the girl's location
MessyCake59
Really? Elaborate, please
Tears 1976
i think she was murder
White tail hunter
Tears 1976, what do you think happened that day in the park.
MessyCake59
Welcome, Tears!
Tears 1976
Hello
Gary7
Later in the relationship, she said Trenny,was still in the park she thought.
Gary7
How did you know. I just talked to my brother, his girlfriend was the Bearden Class of 1978, from what he said Trenny, runaway, and was later murdered.
MessyCake59
A Bearden girl? Interesting. Some of them seem too scared to talk about Trenny.
Gary7
I'll ask my brother, I should see him today, he dated a girl from Knoxville, I'll see if he remembers anything she said.
MessyCake59
Another one of the folks that think she was lost?
Gary 7
Don't remember much, a picture of her, she was on a field trip I believe with her class and became separated, I think took the wrong trail, and became lost.
MessyCake59
What do you remember about her?
Gary7
I just found this site, I can remember some of this Trenny, got lost in the Appalachian trail, I was in grade school when this happened.
Starbuck
I was right all along, it WAS your sister. Listen, Sugar- not interested in a pillow fight, this is a website devoted to a long missing girl, who fortunately never had the pleasure of meeting you.
Rifleman
Th any you Elle Mea, for the input, and for your information she's already married.
Starbuck
He's a writer, Jethro. Try reading a book or are you too busy dating your cousin?
Rifleman
I'm from Tennessee, but no hillbilly, and this David Paulides, is he a singer, or what, never heard of him.
Starbuck
Clearly some hillbilly that doesn't get out much. Are you literate enough to read any of David Paulides's Missing 411 books?
Rifleman
Yes, I'm from Tennessee, I need to get out of the hollow where I live, and see what's over the next ridge,because I'm not the world traveler you are.
Starbuck
Are you serious? You cannot possibly be from Tennessee and have not heard of the cases of Dennis Martin, Trenny Lynn Gibson and Pauline Melton.
Rifleman
I've hiked those trails for many year's, never knew anyone l
got lost or missing on those trails.
MessyCake59
How nice to see a site about the disappearance of Trenny. So strange that she was never found. I wonder how well the students on the trip that day were questioned?
Gary 7
I'll glad that a new site is up, I hope New and fresh information will come forward.